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Oh for heaven's sake, Scott, one would think you never heard the phrase "damned by faint praise."

I have, but I'm not sure why it's relevant. Who's damning who, here? Clark damning McCain? Obama damning Clark? Still, I note that you didn't accept the challenge. Not that I'm keeping a list, mind you.*

*I am.

Jeez it's like you're prejudiced against strawmen or something. Wesley put forward a perfectly good one and the least you can do is acknowledge it I think. Experience shapes leadership and wisdom but more importantly in this context it informs character. McCain's experience as a POW was really unpleasant and involved extensive dental work after. However it impacted the guy he is now is unknowable, but no less real for that. Baracky's bad experience is he's just mad cause he never had no daddy. In terms of compare and contrast, I think McCain's experience probably informs his views on national security and military issues every but as much as Baracky's does.

Oh. *bit* I mean.

I did not know that McCain had set those criteria forth as executive experience material. The first I heard of it, Clark set it forth as such. It's preemptive (sorry, I know how you hate preemption) media preening. So I don't know why one would think that, but you need to ask General Clark.

This is, IMHO, just like the preemptive (sorry, I know how you hate preemption) playing of the race card by Obama before a single McCain commercial has hit the air.

It's offputting and insulting. But it's OK if you do that to a Republican.

And also it's not irrelevant that Wesley Clark is a big girl who just wanted to shake his Obama pom-poms and really hadn't thought about this nonsense before it came babbling girlishly out of his mouth on the tv.

I'm reading Kingsolver's Poisonwood Bible right now.

I'm not sure that's entirely relevant to the situation, but it has something to do with the resonances the writing touches off at the moment.

The best I can say about military experience -- POW time being part and parcel of it, in many ways -- as furher-bildung (and I just mean that in the sense of "leader"; just because it's German doesn't mean it's a Nazi reference!) is that dealing with the military and paramilitary is a significant (much more so lately, it seems) part of the job, and the active experience of it should give the erstwhile candidate both some empathy for the people under their command (though they have many more civil servants in that category, they rarely send them into dangerous situations, except for IRS agents) and some communicative and leadership skills which will ease that relationship somewhat.

But after a while that expires and it's overshadowed by policy, character, allies, etc.

And you know what else? I don't think I like your tone. Flip and impertinent you are, Mr. SEK.

Ignoring the visiting shouters, who seem to have migrated over to EAW anyway...

I would think that reverse torture porn has a much longer history in representational culture, going back at least to the WWII German interrogation scenarios of the 1950s. Withstanding the worst that the enemy can throw at you nicely combines American notions of masculinity with Christian martyrdom fantasies. It'd be interesting to set something roughly coeval like Alias against 24, in terms of representation of torture.

I think Clark's statements are tactically similar to Charlie Black's comments last week that another terrorist attack would give McCain a bump in the polls.
Tacky, yes; but probably also true. It seems like people are worked up by the idea of McCain's military service somehow being denigrated, even if Clark actually has a reasonable point.

How does that saying go, "the first casualty of Politics is the truth"?

Actually, it's the first casualty of war. Truth and politics haven't been on speaking terms in some time.

Truth and politics would not recognize each other.

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Three qualifications: First, leadership is an executive quality. John McCain demonstrated leadership in his conduct as a prisoner and also as the commander of a US Navy training squadron after the Vietnam War.

Secondly, I would argue that quality of character is an executive quality. When the executive makes a promise or signs up to a policy we need to have faith that he will stand by his promise. John McCain's conduct while a prisoner of war demonstrate quality of character in spades. He had the opportunity to be sent home early, but seeing that it would give propaganda points to the enemy he refused, sticking to the agreement that POWs would be released in the order of capture, meaning Everett Alvarez should have been the first to be released. McCain remained true to his country and to his fellow POWs.

Sen. Obama, on the other hand, has demonstrated he will stand by no one. He started off by throwing his grandmother under the bus to perform damage control regarding Rev. Wright. When he began to lose political support he threw Rev. Wright under the bus.

Third, moral courage. John McCain demonstrated moral courage throughout his ordeal as a prisoner of war.

Others' mileage may vary.

Cash

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