. . . Brent Bozell, of the ironically named “Media Research Center,” who refuted Oliver Stone’s comment that “Nixon always said Reagan was a dumb son of a bitch” by quoting a number of prominent figures in Reagan’s administration who thought Reagan was really smart:
I turned to Frank Donatelli, the White House Political Director under President Reagan from 1987 through 1989 . . . Richard Allen, Reagan’s National Security Advisor . . . [and] Gary Bauer[, the] Domestic Policy Advisor under the Gipper for two years[.]
All of them agreed that real “dumb son of a bitch” was Stone, who—according Bozell in a letter addressed to Stone—is an historian because he once claimed to be:
Some producer [of Comedy Central's Politically Incorrect] really thought in extremes when they pitted Oliver Stone and Brent Bozell for one episode. I have to say that you were gracious, charming, engaging, and we enjoyed ourselves—except for that moment when I chastised you for claiming you’re an historian. You bristled and denied ever claming that moniker. I cited the source, an interview in some West Coast paper (I can’t recall which one now).
Even though Bozell can’t remember the name of the paper, he somehow managed to re-read the article later and
[i]t turns out that you were right (in the article) and I was wrong.
So Bozell was wrong, Stone never claimed to be an historian, but that doesn’t mean Bozell wasn’t also right:
You are an historian whether you believe it or not. You make films about history and historical figures. You record history, and that makes you an historian.
Now that Bozell, through the cunning use of italics, has transformed Stone into an historian, he can finally slam him good and proper:
Being an historian is not the problem. It’s that you’re a lousy historian.
In short, Stone isn’t what he never claimed to be, but is what Bozell says he is, and a lousy one at that. The evidence:
“Nixon always said Reagan was a dumb son of a bitch,” you said, and the audience laughed, and you smiled and decided to take that statement further by agreeing with it. So you said, “You know, I think that he was,” and the audience now cheered and hooted and applauded.
See what I mean when I say you’re a lousy historian?
There are two claims being made here: one, that Nixon thought Reagan was a dumb son of a bitch; two, that Oliver Stone thinks Reagan was a dumb son of a bitch. Unfortunately for Bozell, Nixon illegally taped every conversation he ever had, and when we consult his conversations with Henry Kissenger on the morning of November 17, 1971 [620a.mp3], we learn that while Nixon didn’t use those exact words—about Reagan, at least, since we know he used that particular phrase about everyone from the Canadian Prime Minister, Pierre Trudeau, to the Director of the Secret Service, James Rowley, to one of his own White House aides, Tom Charles Huston—he didn’t think too highly of the Gipper’s wits:
(beginning at 1:33:02)
President Nixon: What’s your evaluation or Reagan after meeting him several times now.
Kissinger: Well, I think he’s a—actually I think he’s a pretty decent guy.
President Nixon: Oh, decent, no question, but his brains?
Kissinger: Well, his brains are negligible. I—
President Nixon: He’s really pretty shallow, Henry.
Kissinger: He’s shallow. He’s got no . . . he’s an actor. He—When he gets a line he does it very well. He said, “Hell, people are remembered not for what they do, but for what they say. Can’t you find a few good lines?” That’s really an actor’s approach to foreign policy . . .
Admittedly, Kissinger lands the harder blows, but Nixon obviously agrees with him, so we can say with certainty that Nixon thinks Reagan’s “brains are neglible” and that he’s “really pretty shallow.” That’s not quite “dumb son of a bitch,” but it’s close. If only that tape continued . . .
(beginning at 1:46:19)
President Nixon: Back to Reagan though. It shows you how a man of limited mental capacity simply doesn’t know what the Christ is going on in the foreign area. He’s got to know that on defense—doesn’t he know these battles we fight and fight and fight? Goddamn it, Henry, we’ve been at—
Does calling Reagan “a man of limited mental capacity” amount to saying he’s a “dumb son of bitch”? Oliver Stone seems to think so, and I’m inclined to agree. So, as to the first claim, Bozell is clearly the lousy historian here.
As to the second claim—that Oliver Stone thinks Reagan was a dumb son of a bitch—given that Bozell spends the majority of a letter addressed to Stone trying to prove that Reagan was the second coming of Thomas Aquinas, he’s not well-positioned to argue that Stone doesn’t think Reagan was a dumb son of a bitch.
In other words, the person who misremembered what Stone said in an article somewhere, but doesn’t remember where, who then re-read the article from he-doesn’t-remember-where and promptly forgot where it was again—this person thinks Stone is a lousy historian because he correctly cited Nixon’s sentiments about Reagan and correctly stated that he agreed with Nixon’s assessment. If I were Bozell—and could remember that I was Bozell long enough to cite myself—I wouldn’t be knocking people who don’t claim to be historians for being lousy historians when those same tables could so easily be turned on, say, a “lecturer, syndicated columnist, television commentator, debater, marketer, businessman, author, publisher and activist” who fancies himself qualified to judge who is and isn’t “a real [historian].”
(x-posted.)







Further evidence of the repugnant buffoonery of Bozzell.
Posted by: Karl Steel | Friday, 03 July 2009 at 04:43 PM
You know you're a lying mendacious sack of *** when even libruls call you out on your lies:
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2009/07/media-criticism-scott-eric-kaufman-tears-brent-bozell-into-shreds-and-gobbets-and-then-eats-the-gobbets.html
Go out and get another degree then maybe you will be fit to talk about Reagen.
Posted by: LoyalCon | Friday, 03 July 2009 at 07:30 PM
It's true - nobody's reputation ever recovered from being quoted approvingly by Brad DeLong.
Posted by: SeanH | Saturday, 04 July 2009 at 04:12 AM
A challenger appears!
Not content to let Bozell hold the award for long, loyalcon manages to bafflingly miss the point in a comment on a post about missing the point by miraculously failing to even read the link he provides as damning evidence.
A daring move.
In another note, "sack of ***" really amused me because I can only interpret it to be "sack of ass".
Posted by: j.s.nelson | Saturday, 04 July 2009 at 09:05 AM
Wow this is hilarious. Great work Scott. Great work Loyalcon. High fives all around!
Posted by: Nate | Saturday, 04 July 2009 at 01:31 PM
You libruls are such dipshits. Delong says quote "Scott Eric Kaufman, last seen in the Washington Post "claiming" to have a Ph.D. in English," and those quote marks around "claiming" indicate that he's being sarcastic. Nobody who has a PHD needs to "claim" they do because they alrady have one. But far be it for me to try to teach libruls about sarcasm because just like in politics, THEY. JUST. DON'T. GET IT.
Posted by: LoyalCon | Saturday, 04 July 2009 at 04:03 PM
First, you misspelling "liberal" isn't going to insult anyone here.
Second, you might want to read this.
Third, I don't think I'm the one WHO. JUST. DOESN'T. GET IT. Seriously, I mean, like, seriously.
Fourth, what exactly is a sack of ass?
Posted by: SEK | Saturday, 04 July 2009 at 04:09 PM
That link just makes my point, SEK: if Kaufman had a PHD, the Washington Post would hav efound it. But they didn't. I wonder why that is.......maybe someone should ask KAufman? Like I said, you lie-berals (you like that spelling better?) are so dumb I am surprised you can tell your head from your ****.
Posted by: LoyalCon | Saturday, 04 July 2009 at 04:24 PM
Posted by: SEK | Saturday, 04 July 2009 at 04:35 PM
Loyalcon (what a sanctimonious, presumptuous handle, I can hardly use it): if you go to Proquest's dissertation database, you can look up Kaufman's thesis, successfully filed in 2008. Why the Washington Post didn't bother doing a minutes worth of research doesn't really matter: they were sloppy and it doesn't mean anything; since when do conservatives take WaPo as gospel? DeLong was trying to be funny. He does that sometimes.
Posted by: Ahistoricality | Saturday, 04 July 2009 at 05:33 PM
"I am surprised you can tell your head from your ****."
…your s***!
…your f***!
…your d***!
…your c***!
No, sorry, I'm lost.
Posted by: tomemos | Saturday, 04 July 2009 at 06:36 PM
...hawk from your handsaw!
Posted by: Vance Maverick | Saturday, 04 July 2009 at 06:56 PM
Loyalcon surpasses all expectations and pulls off the half court slam dunk of not getting it! The crowd goes wild! Despite being corrected by commenters and despite the fact that a post with all the information needed to correct his misunderstanding could be found directly under the post he commented on, he persists in error! It's even ambiguous whether he understands that SEK and Kauffman are the same person! If he's not reading the things he links to, or the things he comments on, ladies and gentlemen, what does he read? Judging from his spelling and capitalization, he may not even read the words that he writes.
This is gold medal material.
Posted by: j.s.nelson | Saturday, 04 July 2009 at 07:15 PM
Also I don't know what a sack of ass is but now you're 7th on the google ranking for it.
Posted by: j.s.nelson | Saturday, 04 July 2009 at 07:18 PM
Bozell lied about what Nixon said. He lied about what Stone said. Loyalcon is lying about what everybody said.
Who's the liar again, Loyalcon?
Posted by: Prodigal | Sunday, 05 July 2009 at 06:04 PM
I don't think loyalcon is lying at all. It seems instead that he speaking from a bafflingly comprehensive position of ignorance as to what is going on, or what the people he's talking to/about are saying. His silence seems to imply that he's either caught on and left in shame, or gotten frustrated with how the people around him seem to be speaking nonsense.
I've noticed that the latter happens a lot more often than the former on the internet. It's like that joke about the guy who gets a call from his wife telling him to be careful because someone's driving the wrong way on the highway, to which he replies "it's worse than that, there are hundreds of them!"
When you don't know what's going on in a situation, but you think you do, it can sometimes appear, very convincingly, like everyone around you has no idea what they're talking about.
Posted by: j.s.nelson | Sunday, 05 July 2009 at 08:14 PM
J.S., that's an extremely good analogy—and a great joke to boot.
Posted by: tomemos | Sunday, 05 July 2009 at 09:59 PM
It seems instead that he speaking from a bafflingly comprehensive position of ignorance as to what is going on, or what the people he's talking to/about are saying.
He's like that guy at the party who's the only one who doesn't realize quite how wasted he is, only on the internet.
Posted by: SEK | Monday, 06 July 2009 at 12:02 PM