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The National Day of Service is gay I think. Like roller boogie gay or like that Julia and Julie movie what has Amy Adams in it. Her mom was like a bodybuilding mormon or something. That's sort of unusual, no?

The National Day of Service is gay I think.

And you're welcome to think that . . . but if you learned that Bush officials talked to church leaders and asked them to spread the word about the National Day of Prayer, you wouldn't be upset, would you?

That would be a dorky thing for them to do. Did they do that for reals?

All the time. There's absolutely nothing wrong or unusual about an administration touching base with its constituents to help spread the word about an event likely to be of interest to them. It's even, as the Bush administration proved with its block grants for abstinence-only sex ed, quasi-legal for them to say, "Do what we want, or we won't give you money!"

People in government shouldn't be spreading the word about the National Day of Prayer. I think that's Kirk Cameron's job. Kirk is a very special person.

In Kirk Cameron’s new movie, “Fireproof,” he has to kiss the actress playing his wife. That was a problem.

Cameron will not kiss any woman who is not his wife.

“I have a commitment not to kiss any other woman,” the former child star of “Growing Pains” told Hoda Kotb and Kathie Lee Gifford Monday on TODAY in New York.*

Good on you, Kirk!

I think though that our little president man needs to stop being so grandiose about thinking that him and his doofus tribe of angry progressives are at all capable of deciding what kind of effect they want to have on the culture and then having that effect. It's simply not unmeaningful that the little president man's approval ratings are falling falling falling like Nancy Pelosi's fearful tears. People simply aren't that simple. Not even Americans.

It's simply not unmeaningful that the little president man's approval ratings are falling falling falling
That's not precisely true. I just checked the data (which link, admittedly, provides a bullshit chart, since the notion of averaging out across polls to arrive at the truth is, obviously, stupid). Then there's this.

What do the figures look like if you account for regional differences?

More to the point, what does this have to do with anything?
And, in re: "what kind of effect they want to have on the culture and then having that effect," what is your theory of cultural change? Or, like climate change, do you simply not believe in it? Are you some kind of evo-psych nutjob instead of a Gramscian nutjob? Or do you work in the resistance/containment dynamic of New Historicist clichés? Pick your poison.

And, by the way, Did they do that for reals?

Jackass, did you read the post?

I just don't think the little president man is delivering on what his marketing promised. And when you live and die by Marketing and ohnoes you have Marketing Fail as bad as these ones, you need to focus on holding onto your market share until you can refocus your brand. Little president man is shedding market share and the credibility of his brand is in tatters. You know what the mostest ruinous real people credibility killer thinger is for him? That Cash for Clunkers fiasco.

Anyway.

I read the whole post and I didn't catch about the National Day of Prayer. Let me read it again. Ok no. Can you quote what you're talking about? Was it in one of the links or something?

Little president man is shedding market share
Not true. See links above.

Bush officials talked to church leaders and asked them to spread the word about the National Day of Prayer
Oh, you're confused about whether Bush talked to church leaders and asked them to spread the word about the National Day of Prayer?
That wasn't clear from what you wrote.

Well, let's hold your hand and walk you to a little door labeled Google.

Now, if we hold to the strict standard of whether Bush personally promoted the NDP by contacting particular churches, well, that's hard to prove, at least in the five minutes I'm willing to give the research. But if the question can be heard as 'Did Bush give his approval to the National Day of Prayer by meeting with leaders of its task force (i.e., 'church leaders') at the White House,' and 'was the task force during the Bush era restricting this unofficial government support to fundamentalist Christians and excluding moderate Christians, Muslims, and Jews,' then the answer looks like yes.

You're welcome.

Okeydokey. The trendline on the little president man's market share is clear as day from what you linked. Try squinting your eyes a little maybe. That helps sometimes. And you just got all excited and went off half-cocked about the National Day of Prayer thing and that's not going to escape the notice of people what read this thread I don't think.

You're mean.

If back in January your broker had moved you into a fund what had little president man's trend line you'd be even grumpier than you are.

While we wait for Mr. Dr. Steele's reply here's VV for you cause of she's cute as pickles. She's a big Barack Obama fan, VV is. And that's okay.

Scott, that's a pretty bad troll infestation you got there. Have you tried an exterminator?

You're mean.
And you're stupid. And a bad speller. And lazy.

If my broker put me in the Obama fund in November 2008, I'd fire her; if he bought in the last few weeks, I'd be okay with that. Nonetheless, I still don't see what the presidential polling has to do with Scott's original post. Or really what it has to do with anything, since Obama's not currently running for any office. Could you explain that further?

And maybe I missed the bit where you explained what model of social change you believe in? The one, you know, that makes Presidential efforts to influence culture contemptible (since you're against presidents "deciding what kind of effect they want to have on the culture and then having that effect")? I mean, most people thought FDR's fireside chats were kind of neat, whereas you, being a...doctrinaire Marxist who believes only in the potency of the base? being a object relations psychoanalyst who believes in longstanding influence of ego relations with the mother? a Jungian (you know, the woo-woo version of Evo-Psych)? what? ... think FDR's fireside chats, Bush's 'keep shopping,' etc., deserve your contempt?

Frankly, I don't really get what you're driving at.

Or what you think was ok abt the Bush-era handling of the NDP.

Also, I don't understand why you get calling Obama "little." Bush, being only 5' 11" (and no doubt shrinking), is little. Obama, at 6' 1", is a bit short, but generally not someone we'd call 'little.' Or do you mean this word in some sense other than a literal description of height or width? We need a little more explanation here.

also: "is shedding" != "trendline"
Obviously.

The point is that if the little president man and his neo-marxist team of adolescent douchebags can't massage a basic approval rating out of people what have been stupefied by a supine dirty socialist media, then it's entirely too ambitious for them to think that they can inculcate a mass desire to perform dirty socialist service work.

I think Bush should have not deigned to notice the national day of prayer cause of the national day of prayer is almost not quite but almost as gay as the national day of abject dirty socialist service.

And little president man is little. Metrosexual dirty socialist waif boi. Too much arugula too few chili dogs I guess.

you didn't say whether or not you thought VV was cute as pickles

Karl, HappyFeet is a regular troll here, someone SEK seems to .... like? respect? accept? I don't know. Anyway, HF is a performance art troll who argues, if you can call it that, in circles (e.g. "if the ... president ... can't massage a basic approval rating out of people what have been stupefied by a supine dirty socialist media...") and has no respect for the English language as we know it. HF's only known goal is to keep you talking, getting more and more frustrated until you do or say something you regret, then cites it incessantly.

That said, who considers 6'1" "a bit short"? Shorter than what? He's close to the norm for contemporary politicians; the only President manifestly taller was Abraham Lincoln.

White House officials say they are enacting specific steps to make sure such a call never happens again.

I don't get that why would that do that? They can't do that. It's wrong. It's wrong cause of there was nothing wrong with that call. OMG. They're letting themselves be bullied. We can't let this stand. We have to let the little president man know that it's ok for him to have these calls so he can get the word out about the hopings and the changings.

Who's with me? Silence is sort of like assent, just quieter.

AHist: I don't really get why SEK plays ball with HF.

Shorter than what?
Than me.

as an afterthought, because, as I've said before, HF is basically just ripping off Fafblog's style. It's not only that he's a stupid illogical troll; it's that he basically the Judd Hirsch to Fafblog's Alan Alda, or the Yahoo Serious to Fafblog's PeeWee Herman.

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