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Sunday, 25 October 2009

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Don't you suppose there are features of this page (including this, my comment) that ten years hence will look like Not Really The Real Internet Yet?

Vance: Yes.

Scott: Given that the vast majority of geocities pages have been static for some time now, I suspect that the Wayback Machine probably has a pretty definitive archive, entirely capable of allowing future historians access to that trove of ..... well, I have no idea what they'll be looking for, because I'm not an historian of the future (as evidenced by my existence in the present, and confirmed by my insistence on "an").

It has been news for a couple of months in the geekosphere, this shutdown, usually with sneering about the worthlessness of Geocities and how much of a less to humankind this treasure trove of Shadowrun fanfiction would be. Few of those sneering have thought about what will happen when their blogspot, typepad, greymatter hosted sites will inevitably be shut down ten, twenty years from now....

Don't you suppose there are features of this page (including this, my comment) that ten years hence will look like Not Really The Real Internet Yet?

Absolutely, which is why I was mourning the passing of GeoCities a bit.

I suspect that the Wayback Machine probably has a pretty definitive archive

Actually, I don't think it does. Most sites were set to avoid spiders, so unless a person was HTML-savvy (and most GeoCities users weren't), their site's likely down the memory hole.

Few of those sneering have thought about what will happen when their blogspot, typepad, greymatter hosted sites will inevitably be shut down ten, twenty years from now...

Blasphemer!

Incidentally, just a couple weeks ago a fascinating and pertinent bit of internet history surfaced on Metafilter: the origin story of the "Under Construction" animation.

Apparently there's an active archive project.

Unless Yahoo deletes its files -- which seems stupid, with memory as cheap as it is and these early webpages so efficient -- it's entirely possible that historians might have access to it again sometime.

Mark G, that's incredible. I'm surprised there's not a definitive social history of the internet yet, but I suppose what Ahistoricality links to might be of use to whatever poor soul's brave enough to try and write one.

Plus you can't search the Wayback machine.

Ouch.

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