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Monday, 05 November 2012

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mxyzptlk

Okay, first I need to commend you and your Holmes-like observational powers. Picking up on the encircling -- and the encircling of the encircling -- is no easy task in such an action-packed episode.

But something else might be at play here: In your first GoT post, I posted a link to a image-pattern that appears in the first episode north of the wall (the Wilding bodies) and in the last episode in the desert across the sea (Drogo's funeral pyre). http://s12.postimage.org/y77g5q19p/Go_T_death_pattern.jpg

In the first image, there are a few heads on posts that create a larger circle around the circle of body parts that encircle another dismembered body (or two). In the second image, there's a fire circle around Drogo and another circle around that circle.

They're both the same encircling pattern you've recognized with the blocking in these scenes. This may be more than just a twice-repeating symbol, and something more like visual narrative architecture at work here.

mxyzptlk

And looking at those Stone Crows running down the hill makes me want to re-cut those running/fighting scenes to Yakety Sax.

I'll get right on that.

SEK

I love how you complimented on my attentiveness while pointing out something that I missed.

But I think you and I are onto something here. I'm not sure exactly what though -- I didn't just leave that last paragraph hanging for pedagogical reasons, I really don't know what to make about the creation of this set of expectations and then the confounding of them.

BoogaBear

I totally agree with what you are saying about the loneliness of Catelyn and Tyrion. They are always the ones singled out from the rest. I truly feel sorry for Tyrion. Even though he is a Lannister, he too tries to find friendship. But no one wants to be friends with a Lannister. Most of Tyrion's shots are by himself. Poor Tyrion. could no one want to be his friend because he is an imp? Jamie Lannister is way more of an A-whole than Tyrion, but he is never alone in a frame. I just feel that Tyrian is misunderstood because of his brother and sister's actions. These shots you showed us are very supportive in showing this.

Dirty Dan

Every circle that is formed seems to be centered around a character of power. Even if they seem to not have any power at all in the moment the conclusion of that scene ends with the empowerment or safety of said encircled character(s) despite the eminent harm that originally imposed. In the first shot Tyrian uses his power of knowledge and quick thinking to team up with who he needs to in order to remain alive, and when the hill people attack his power is shown physically with a weapon intended for defense, I'm guessing to emphasize the fact that Tyrian will not go down as long as he has his brain as a defense. In the second scene Lady Stark is the person in power despite the visual representation of her sister's "higher" power because Catelyn still uses her authority to protect what she believes in despite the weird corrupt power I felt as her sister and nephew threaten Tyrian. And in the third shot you describe I still believe the circle is meant to give power to whom is in its' center, which is the Lannister. Before this scene I always had the assumption that he was weak and of little power, but this scene proves his power but at the same time undermines it by allowing a tie between their battle. Also the fact that Ned is in the brim of the circle should mean he has little power over it's center, but the fact that he is such a bada$$ he doesn't need that limelight to prove his power. The circle which you left out being the one where Ned refuses to agree on an attack on the Dothrakians, empowers Ned by showing that his thoughts are more clear than kings' deeming him more fit to rule but to humble to admit. From that sense of power we can predict that the king will eventually end up needing Ned to overcome a greater power.

mxyzptlk

Ha! I hope I didn't come off like a jerk -- that wasn't my intention. I was genuinely impressed with the blocking discovery, and that reminded me of two frozen/burning circles.

Dirty Dan's idea that whoever's in the circle ends up prevailing over their current circumstances brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back those frozen/burning circles again (and by 'us' I mean 'me'): In one, it's the Wildings/people of the north in the circle, and the Starks count themselves among them (they still worship the old gods, etc.). In the other, it's a Dothraki and his Targaryen mail-order bride.

For fear of spoiling anyone's day/experience of the books, I won't get into the implications. Suffice to say there's some later dream symbolism that hits on this frozen/burning imagery as well (I think A Dance With Dragons), and much of it comes down to the real baby mama of Jon Snow.

Granted, if that's all accurate, it would mean that Martin may have dropped some hints to Benioff and Weiss in order to work in some useful information in the first season.

(Still working on the GoT Yakity Sax remix.)

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