I'm teaching two sections of my comics course in Fall 2010, and instead of relying on all the Batman or Alan Moore material, I decided to test-drive chapters from the upcoming book.
The first is called "American Manga," and in it I'll be teaching the first book and the film adaptation of Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, a few episodes of Avatar: The Last Airbender, and Bryan Lee O'Malley's Scott Pilgrim. You'll note that I've chosen three series that have been adapted into films, but am only teaching one of the films. The idea is to get them to write about the films I'm not teaching with the tools they acquired from the one I did. Or they can focus on what the process of Americanization actually entails. (To that end I thought about including Cowboy Bebop and Serenity because they act like mirror images of each other: the former imagines fleeing a barely inhabitable Earth into a universe that is ostensibly Japanese, but heavily indebted to an explicitly American cultural ethos; the latter imagines fleeing "Earth that was" into a universe that is ostensibly frontier America, but heavily indebted to an explicitly Chinese cultural ethos. But then I tried lesson-planning that transoceanic cultural exchange and my head exploded.)
The second is called "Coming of Age" at the moment, but could be changed into something along the lines of "Confessional Comics" depending on what other material I include.* To date I've selected Craig Thompson's Blankets and Alison Bechdel's Fun Home, and while I know there are a million other indie comics that fit the bill, outside of Ghost World I can't think of any other "Coming of Age" comics that have been adapted into film. (My general aversion to Clowes is the only reason I'm disinclined to use it.) As this is certainly a byproduct of a general summer malaise, I wonder what obvious item I'm overlooking.
*If I lose the focus on "Coming of Age" and switch to the more general "Confessional Comics," I could obviously include Pekar and his film.
It seems like Persepolis would often be on a list like that. And while it might be a little oblique (or too brief) for the context, Gaiman and McKean's Mr. Punch would make for an interesting contrast in self-narration styles.
Posted by: Will | Friday, 23 July 2010 at 01:42 PM
The problem with Persepolis is that it's French, as in "has an entirely different set of conventions from it's English or American counterparts." That might seem like a plus, but it's a lot to squeeze into a ten-week quarter. I can only swing the manga/anime in because of the fact that the majority of my students read manga and watch anime, so they're intuitively aware of most of the conventions. That said, I did not, in fact, think of Persepolis when lesson-planning, and you're right, it'd be perfect. I may just have to use it anyway, you know, do that thing where I pretend it's just a really innovative American book ... and telling them that I'm doing that, of course. Hm ...
Posted by: SEK | Friday, 23 July 2010 at 01:51 PM
I was just going to suggest Persepolis, too.
Posted by: Rebecca | Friday, 23 July 2010 at 01:53 PM
Motel got made into a film. I haven't read the original. It's not quite coming-of-age, but you could pretend that it is a play on the conventions of the coming-of-age story.
Posted by: Sisyphus | Friday, 23 July 2010 at 03:56 PM
Here you go:
http://www.amazon.com/Motel-Sung-Kang/dp/B000JBXHE6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1279918618&sr=1-1
Also, I really liked the film The Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys ... but it was adapted from a short-story collection not a graphic novel. You gotta find a way to stuff it in, though.
Posted by: Sisyphus | Friday, 23 July 2010 at 04:01 PM
Hey, Scott, since you bring it up, can we resume the argument about Clowes, and particularly about David Boring? I still think I, and Hob on the LGM thread, had really good (in fact, the better) points suggesting that you were being too simplistic about Clowes. And you did say that you were going to reread DB and respond. Now, a lot of stuff has happened since then, so I've been very very good about not asking you to get back into the fight when you've had so much tzuris in your life. But this time you brought it up.
Posted by: tomemos | Friday, 23 July 2010 at 04:07 PM
As for the question, I definitely think Ghost World should be taught. Other than that…Gaiman's Mr. Punch, though it's pretty unwieldy. Oooh ooh, and have you read Ariel Schrag? She went to high school with me, one year ahead of me. Potential is her best book, about her junior year of high school (when she found out she was a lesbian). It's funny, cartoony, and not too full of itself. And the minor flaws it does have result from it being written when she was still in high school, which seems to work very well with the class theme anyway.
Posted by: tomemos | Friday, 23 July 2010 at 04:09 PM
Motel got made into a film. I haven't read the original. It's not quite coming-of-age, but you could pretend that it is a play on the conventions of the coming-of-age story
It sounds like a coming-of-age story at Amazon, or like something I could pair with American Born Chinese, if I wanted to teach that ... which I sorta don't. As I mentioned in the LGM version of this post: I actually considered that for inclusion in the course—it will be in the book, so long as we can get publishing rights—but decided against it because it chronicles an experience so close to that of many of my students. I know that sounds counter-intuitive, but I’ve found that when students write about matters they can relate to, their essays become deeply personal instead of analytical, and that when you try to point out that this deeply personal essay they’ve written isn’t the rhetorical analysis they were asked to produce, they’re deeply and personally offended. Basically, it makes criticism impossible. However, once it’s established that they like the genre, I point out books like that instantly and they write me back later saying how much they loved them.
I really liked the film The Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys ... but it was adapted from a short-story collection not a graphic novel. You gotta find a way to stuff it in, though.
As did I, but I need to stick to graphic novels for a course and book on visual rhetoric.
I still think I, and Hob on the LGM thread, had really good (in fact, the better) points suggesting that you were being too simplistic about Clowes. And you did say that you were going to reread DB and respond.
I did! But my scanner broke and I couldn't find any scans online, and ... the other stuff you mention. But yes, if I'm going to use Ghost World, I'll definitely be revisiting that conversation. And I'm not familiar with Ariel Schrag, but will make my self so.
Also, someone at LGM mentioned Spiderman. About which, all I'll say is: I did mention a "general summer malaise," and with your aid, I've proven it.
Posted by: SEK | Friday, 23 July 2010 at 05:52 PM
If you want to borrow any Schrag from me, let me know and I could drop it in your box. It's all been republished recently. When I bought Definition it was self-published at a local copy shop, and being distributed by her friends in the school courtyard.
On the other hand, as a teacher you can get free copies of books whenever you want, so treat yourself to Potential. It's not perfect but it's still very cool.
Posted by: tomemos | Friday, 23 July 2010 at 06:58 PM
hello. I came to read your thinkings about our new friend Shirley.
I will check back later.
Posted by: happyfeet | Friday, 23 July 2010 at 09:05 PM
I have to say that I've never read Ghost World the graphic novel but the film is one of my favorite films of all time.
As Tom Lehrer pointed out there are many books and movies about characters who can't communicate with each other, and Ghost World works with that dynamic better than most and then managers to end on not one but two genuinely optimistic notes. The first of which suggests that, for all the difficulty it is possible for people to connect and the second which adds to that the possibility of unexplained transcendent good fortune.
I could happily elaborate, but I really think it's a remarkably well done movie.
Posted by: NickS | Friday, 23 July 2010 at 09:09 PM
Happyfeet: not to start the fireworks early, but I think you mean "our old friend Andrew." Who will hopefully become "our estranged friend Andrew," at least as far as the media is concerned, but somehow I don't think we'll be that lucky.
Posted by: tomemos | Friday, 23 July 2010 at 09:30 PM
happy:
I will check back later.
Get an email address that doesn't fail! That said, and needless to say, having read those 9,000-long comment threads on PW in which everyone hates happy the apostate, I don't think we'll disagree about the means, only the ends.
But we both already knew that.
Also, and not for public consumption yet, the "Everyone Hates Ackerman" show will be canceled should Carlson ever publish the entire email in context. Reason for which could be explained ... should you have a working email address.
And also again, I once, well, this link is informative: http://tinyurl.com/punch-spencer
Nick:
I have to say that I've never read Ghost World the graphic novel but the film is one of my favorite films of all time.
The movie's far superior to the book, but then again, that's because you can't make actual human beings as flat as drawn characters. I know I need to get over my gut-level reaction to Clowes' misanthropy, but it's difficult because it's like he and I were wired in a mirror, bound to forever receive the opposite of the signal someone intended to send.
Posted by: SEK | Friday, 23 July 2010 at 09:44 PM
that's because you can't make actual human beings as flat as drawn characters
I'm beginning to understand why you don't want to teach Clowes.
I'm not surprised to hear that the comic isn't as good as the movie, because the movie is amazingly good. But it sounds like you're probably wise to try to avoid including it in the course.
Posted by: NickS | Saturday, 24 July 2010 at 12:16 AM
I've also heard that the "Scott Pilgrim" adaptation will be released soon, if that would work.
Posted by: Rebecca | Saturday, 24 July 2010 at 05:12 PM
Not sure it's coming-of-age, but Wristcutters: A Love Story was based on Pizzeria Kamikaze by Etgar Keret.
Also - I owe you a phone call. Sorry.
Posted by: Patrick | Sunday, 25 July 2010 at 10:57 AM
I thought it was based on "Kneller's Happy Campers"? Maybe they both were?
Posted by: Josh | Sunday, 25 July 2010 at 07:16 PM
As I knew it, "Kneller's Happy Campers" was the title of it as it was serialized across 3 or 4 issues of the comic Polarity in the early 2000s, but was "Pizza Kamikaze" in trade paperback.
Posted by: Patrick | Monday, 26 July 2010 at 01:03 PM
yes they hates us... angry proteins... they judges us they do. Hah just kidding we just disagree sometimes.
This one boggled me. I thought you'd have been more... engaged by it though.
But there's a lot more circumspection on this one in Team R circles then you'd notice at first glance I think. Lots of normally chatty folks what just don't seem to wanna talk about it.
Posted by: happyfeet | Monday, 26 July 2010 at 06:23 PM
I'm fairly (though not 100%) certain that "Wristcutters" was based off a short story called "Kneller's Happy Campers" in English, "Ha-Kaytana Shel Kneller" in the original Hebrew, which is included in an anthology of the same name by Etgar Keret. The comic was adapted from the story.
Posted by: Jesse A. | Monday, 26 July 2010 at 07:58 PM